Lando's "Keep it Quiet" Mill Deck 3.0

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This list looks incredibly fun! I will have to build this list.

How has it been in testing?

Actually, I hace officially built this list now:)

I'm looking to play it and was curious about Planned Explosion. I know the purpose is to Mill but is this a sneak attack when they least expect it? I guess plan b is to win with damage.

Can't wait to play it!

This does look like a lot of fun, Lando looks like a surprisingly strong character. I think something that might be interesting to look at would be using Hidden Agenda as a way to toss one or two more expensive events in the deck alongside Entrenched but it's definitely something that would need to be tried out once or twice. Nice build!

These are the chances I've made over the previous build which was getting slayed by aggro very badly. I decided to run a couple of PE's to try and act like a sort of Crime Lord for hero. I haven't had the chance to test this build out yet but it certainly has all the pieces in it now that I felt it was missing after testing. I'll give it a shot when I can but if anyone else gets to it before me, let me know! There's definitely "something" here I feel.

@Rebel Grey I will test this out tonight. I'll keep you in the loop:)

@Rebel Grey Let me first say that this deck may be the most fun I've had with EaW so far.

It took me some time to get rolling but I learned how to play it as the games went on.

I played about 6-8 games with this deck. I won 2. I made a few mistakes. I was able to PE an Unkar and win the Thrawnkar matchup. I lost some close games but wow is this deck fun.

After testing I feel as if this deck needs more permanent dice mitagation.

Sound The Alarm is cute but it's a temporary fix or it could better their dice. I didn't hate using it but I didn't feel ecstatic. I felt the same with Bad Feeling.

All Quiet On The Front is fun in theory but with so much aggro going in the new meta, I never felt happy losing my shields by playing it. Late game I can see it being diminished with an opponent playing more and more upgrades.

Turn 1 Millennium Falcon or U-Wing happens quite a bit. Chance Cube was freaking amazing. Never any issues with resources even when an opppnent played Abandon All Hope.

I'd like more protection, mitigation, and something to push this deck over the top.

There is definitely something here to work with. Soooooooo much fun! My locals were impressed with what it could do:)

Nice work dude! In my initial testing I also found being overwhelmed by dice later in the game makes it very hard to overcome, hence the inclusion of PE as killing a character is the best removal in the game, right!

I wouldn't want this to fail at mill and so the reroll cards are there to encourage rerolls. I think the problem is they're not good enough and we'll have to look to negotiate and possibly honor guard to make some more removal happen. I think if the PE angle is working better then the deck leaves the mill archetype and goes for a more combo-deck functionality.

Falcons and rebel can be used to play PE again as well. The issue I feel will persist without die control is once Lando dies the deck goes with him. It's a tough deck to get right and in the end it may never be uber competitive because, well, hero cards just tend to be weaker than their villain counterparts.

Glad you are having fun! Joint projects are the best when deck-building :)

Oddly enough I lost Lando both games I won while protecting Mothma.

I think I've optimized this list @Rebel Grey. I went 6-1 tonight in testing vs eVader/ePhasma, eThrawn/ePhasma, eInquisitor/eCienna, eChirrut/eKanan, eVos/eAsanji.

My lone loss was to ePhasma/eVader but it was a nailbiter until the end. The other games weren't really close.

I milled each game for the win. I was able to PE 1-2 times in the games I played tonight.

Changes I've made based on your initial list is this:

-2 All Quiet On The Front -2 Sound The Alarm -2 Bad Feeling -2 Rebel -1 Diplomatic Immunity +1 Second Chance +2 Field Medic +2 Loth-Cat and Mouse +1 Cheat +1 Fall Back +1 Emergency Evacuation +1 Retreat

The only change I want to try now is taking out 1 U-Wing for a Launch Bay.

This deck makes you think quite a bit and you have to make some key plays. Now if I can only remember to use Mon Mothma - Skilled Politician's ability I feel it would be better:)

Here is the list now:

Lando Mill

Hero Rogue / Command

Sets: From Awakenings to Empire at War

BATTLEFIELD ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Command Center, Lothal (Awakenings #165)

CHARACTER ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 2x Mon Mothma, Skilled Politician (Spirit of Rebellion #27) 2x Lando Calrissian, Galactic Entrepreneur (Empire at War #39)

UPGRADE ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 1x Diplomatic Immunity (Awakenings #50) 2x Second Chance (Awakenings #137) 2x Chance Cube (Empire at War #57)

SUPPORT ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ 1x Launch Bay (Awakenings #31) 1x Millennium Falcon (Awakenings #49) 2x C-3PO (Spirit of Rebellion #30) 1x U-Wing (Spirit of Rebellion #31) 2x Spy Net (Spirit of Rebellion #98)

EVENT ¯¯¯¯¯ 2x Field Medic (Awakenings #105) 1x Retreat (Awakenings #110) 2x Electroshock (Awakenings #159) 1x Emergency Evacuation (Spirit of Rebellion #90) 2x Loth-Cat and Mouse (Spirit of Rebellion #114) 2x Planned Explosion (Spirit of Rebellion #116) 1x Cheat (Spirit of Rebellion #143) 2x Friends in Low Places (Spirit of Rebellion #146) 2x Entrenched (Empire at War #90) 1x Fall Back (Empire at War #120) 2x Pickpocket (Empire at War #139)

@Rebel Grey @RSanchez@TheChanceCube love this guys! Hero mill is just going to keep getting better with you guys at the helm of fine tuning this beast! I do have a question though. After these changes, and no more New Orders in the deck, do you now choose to take Command Center - Lothal at start? If so, how often do you get to claim? Feels like fast decks can be trouble for that, or do you just take their battlefield if your facing some nasty aggro?

That is quite a few changes! I think this deck is a different breed from the above and is yours now lol will try it out myself as well.

I am going to test more tonight but right now I feel like I want to maintain Negotiate for certain match-ups. Emergency evac is expensive and it might be a swap here. Dodge/Block are considerations here as well.

IMO the BF for this deck is always a red herring as you want the shields to start. We're slower than most decks already as it is. I'm not totally sold on removing All Quiet yet either but if the deck can reach a point of simply out-shielding and removing damage what we have is a deck winning by mill/discard which fits more of an "Outlast" deck. Meaning we just stay alive longer to win. But I think this becomes very difficult as the game progresses if we cannot kill of 1-2 characters with PE. We'll keep testing!

Ahh the ol red herring! I think you guys are onto something here. I've been toying around the idea like this and seeing how you guys are evolving it, it's just great. I do like All Quiet On The Front and maybe just use 1 copy? More near end game so you don't lose all your shields if your sitting across the table from aggro?

@Spartanlife74 like Rebel said, the BF is just a Red Herring. We want the shields to start. I always put them on Mothma. I hardly ever claim running this deck and when I do it's because I've manipulated their hand and dice to a point in which I don't worry. @Rebel Grey the changes I've made shifts the "All Quiet" to a hybrid of the prior vision. I have no issues milling their hand/deck with Spy Net, Lando's discard sides, Falcon's discard, C3PO, and card effects. I want to keep my shields at all times. The opponent will use their cards to reroll better options for them and attempt to mitigate resource generation, and discard dice.

There are no issues with resources in what is going on here. Do you know how crushing it is to an opponent when you play Emergency Evacuation when they have 6-8 dice out and you haven't activated? Ask my playtesting buddy. It put him on tilt and he never recovered. I lost 1-2 dice tops.

Oh they have tons of upgrades? I had Second Chance and Chance Cube out. I had about 4-6 resources available. Mothma had 0 upgrades. My opponent had 5 upgrades today with dice in the pool. I didn't pay to use Chance Cube's enter activation. Put it back in my hand. Now I have 1 upgrade out.

After he used an action to manipulate dice I played Fall Back. I kept my one upgrade. He lost 4. I played Chance Cube and he was not happy.

Playing this deck with how I'm running it now causes you to play situationally. Adding Loth-Cat and Mouse and the other cards including Cheat always puts me in a great place when I need a card. Using the Millennium Falcon's ability to play Yellow events can help me play anything I want when I want to.

This is why I run these silver bullets in the deck. There is quite a bit of thought during each play to ensure you make the right decision.

Just can't forget to maximize Mon Mothma - Skilled Politician's ability. I keep forgetting.

So if you worry about resource generation, don't. If they spend time manipulating your dice it will put you ahead.

Slow and steady wins the race. Since optimizing I am 10-1 with the list.

I've won every game by milling and maybe I've used PE in 1/3 of the games to kill a 10 health character like Captain Phasma - Ruthless Tactician or Unkar Plutt - Junk Dealer.

This deck is legit but needs more testing. I love the pairing @Rebel Grey. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Try these changes. Trust me you'll see the potential of the cards.

I'll gladly answer any questions anyone has. I know it needs more testing and repetition to make the plays automatic.

@RSanchez@TheChanceCube what do you think svout Admiral Ackbar - Perceptive Tactician instead of Mon Mothma - Skilled Politician? Same die as Lando, get 2 damage when you empty their hand, an extra discard side, and you don't neee to worry about mothma ability lol

@Spartanlife74 You want the focus more than anything Ackbar has tbh.

@RSanchez@TheChanceCube You've sold me on evac. The plays you're generating have critical timings that help the deck craft it's wins. I'm going to try it out tonight with a friend. I'll publish a new version giving you mad credit and include your write-ups here.

@Spartanlife74It would be worth testing but I feel the extra damage isn't that important if we plan to focus on milling to win. Based on my opinion here are this decks win conditions.

1. Mill
2. Planned Explosion
3. Pew Pew

I think using Mon Mothma - Skilled Politician's triggered ability could help one of your dice with better results. Also, If the opportunity is there you can reroll a troublesome die. This could force the opponent to discard for better results.

That's what we want. Let them pitch cards all day long. It helps this deck.

@RSanchez@TheChanceCube @Rebel Grey I see your point guys, makes perfect sense. I like having multiple win conditions, and this makes perfect sense to me. I already built the deck, looking forward to testing next week! Keep up the awesome work guys!