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This is my current mill deck. The goal is to defend with shields while milling the opponent. Qui-Gon Jinn does allow you to switch to an offensive strategy if needed but that is not ideal.
Padme Amidala has a 1:3 chance of activating her special ability on a normal roll and causing the opponent to mill their deck. Leia Organa was considered as the second character in the deck because she would give 2 more dice for the roll off at the beginning of the game and her ability helps with dice consistency. However, Qui-Gon Jinn gives access to the cards Patience and Return of the Jedi potentially allowing for even greater milling and the shields on his die better fit the defensive strategy the deck will employ.
For the battlefield I have chosen to use the Command Center for 2 reasons. First it furthers the milling strategy of the deck. Second, and possibly more importantly, it likely benefits me far more than my opponent. Unless they are also playing a mill deck, they will be little motivated to claim the battlefield. Alternatively I considered Echo Base for the defensive aspects, but my opponent might then be motivated to claim the battlefield for themselves to gain the shield, or to deny me the extra defenses. Unfortunately as I will only have 3 character dice for the roll off at the beginning of the game it is likely I will not be able to choose the battlefield. For this reason I have included a Hyperspace Jump. This serves not only to completely disrupt a turn that looks likely to benefit my opponent more than me, but also to deprive them of their chosen battlefield and instead give me mine.
Because of Patience's effect I want the deck to include as many dice as reasonably possible. In addition to BB-8 there are 13 different Upgrades in the deck and all but 3 provide an additional die to the pool. Ultimately what I roll on them is of less importance than in most decks since I can simply feed them all into Patience if they aren't what I am looking for. BB-8 is included to help me focus my dice and gain some consistency to my rolls as is Use The Force and One with The Force. This last card also provides a ridiculously good dice that remains even if Qui-Gon Jinn should fall.
Draw Attention, Diplomatic Immunity, Jedi Robes, Defensive Stance, Force Protection, Hunker Down, and Second Chance all provide extra survivability to my characters.
Negotiate is included to help deal with aggressive opponents. Ideally this is played when they have few dice to choose from to remove thus ensuring they remove the ones I have in mind. Jedi Council can be used to further the milling strategy, weaken their deck, or even help me find a missing piece of my own strategy. Thanks to Return of the Jedi, I can always just discard an event to the Jedi Council knowing I can get it back when I need it.
The last card, Cunning, is included primarily to activate my own special abilities, especially Force Protection or Padme Amidala, although if it is beneficial I might choose to steal the opponent's effects.
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My thinking with All In was that I would follow it immediately with Hyperspace Jump or use it for just a couple of dice when I need to focus and do something real fast to thwart my opponent but I agree it is not necessarily an ideal pick. Perhaps a Deflect would be more appropriate. As for Emperor's Throne Room, isn't that more likely to benefit my opponent than Command Center? I realize I don't want to be milled either but it is unlikely to be the primary strategy of their deck like it is for mine but every deck uses special abilities. Also what am I missing with Datapad? Everyone seems to love it but I see 4 sides of that dice on a natural roll that don't benefit me. BB-8 may be slow but it seems far more consistently useful and as a Support it isn't taking up an upgrade slot I would rather use for One with The Force, Hunker Down, Jedi Robes, etc... Another thought for you... if I focused more on the Qui-Gon side, how do you feel about Riposte? Thank you very much for your input! I'd love to discuss it more with you if you have the time. |
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Lots to reply about! 1.) My issue with Qui-Gon is, with no other character dealing damage, you just aren't likely to succeed at either of your goals. You could be milling more--Rey helps to hand kill, which is where you're gonna end up to win. 2.) All In is great, but with focus results. Otherwise, you are just resolving a handful of results, which is prob not worth 1 resource, esp. since using Padme's ability effectively is resource-intensive. It's all roll-dependent, but I think better cards could be used. 3.) There is no guarantee that Throne Room will backfire on you. There is, however, 100% certainty that Command Center will. This deck is slow. You will losing key cards to your own battlefield. Sure, they will have something that abuses Throne Room, but it will likely be less consistently brutal than you having your deck moshed turn after turn. 4.) Datapad helps you push through your specials, which you need for Padme's ability, or to get to discard to close out the game. I think this is one of the best upgrades in the game for decks like this. A must include. BB-8 is another activation that isn't one of your dudes. Things like Jedi Robes come and go. As mentioned, Diplomatic Immunity stinks. 5.) Riposte is very good with shields. But, again, you need to pick a lane. Are you winning through kill or mill? Splitting your deck down the middle isn't going to work well outside of casual play. |
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As requested, here are my comments. I
I also started off with Qui-Gon, but found that doing so split my strategy in to two halves, neither of which complements one another. Padme is trying to force mill. And Qui-Gon is an aggressive control character that is dealing damage. This means you are not committed enough to one strategy to effectively succeed at either.
Rey is better pairing with Padme for three reasons:
1.) you can run her elite. Negotiate with only three dice stinks. Also makes your Patience better out of the gate. 2.) you can garner speed and efficiency off upgrading her 3.) she has a discard side
Further, I think the deck has too much in the way of shields. Diplomatic Immunity is overcosted for its effect, even with Qui-Gon. It just isn't necessary. Datapad is a beast with Padme.
I do not like Draw Attention at all. I think it makes sense in a three character deck where you have chaff, but not in a deck like this.
I find it hard to not justify playing Deflect in any deck running Blue. It is too good against a lot of the top decks, even if you are not dealing out a ton of damage.
BB-8 is slow. If playing Rey we want cards that pair with her, as in upgrades. Comlink is another fine control card with Rey wherein you can force rerolls and see how you need to respond.
Electroshock is nuts. Needs to be in here for sure.
All In seems random in here. I am sure it can lead to nutty turns, but when you play cards like Hunker Down, your deck is often sloooooow. There is nothing wrong with slow claim strategies at all, but All In seems wrong in this deck.
Lastly, Emperor's Throne Room is a much safer battlefield for Padme. It will ensure mills, allow for speed, and may mean nothing to your opponent. Command Center can and will screw you.
Return of the Jedi is very good, but I would prob just play one. You really just want it for Patience.